An ant has no quarrel with a boot...

[ericadawn16]

Every single time I watch the scene with Loki and Fury, I take it the wrong way. Fury always assumes that we're the ants but I always think we're the boot. Even the very first time when I didn't know Fury was building weapons especially for Asgardians like Loki and other trouble makers, I assumed humans were the boot. It's like how Thor describes the Bilgesnipe. We come in and trample everything in our path, trying to remake everyone into what we think they should be like...

When I worked at the restaurant, we had a group come in about every week...very, very Creationist. One Sunday afternoon, I said how I believed we were genetically pre-disposed to violence because if we look at animals, they all use violence as a viable option.

You should have seen his face, he was so pissed. He told me how we were NOTHING like animals.

I got the soundtrack for The Avengers. I don't know if you're familiar with the tracks. There's one called "The Promise". It starts either when Tony wakes up or when the news footage starts and covers the rest of the film. My mom was very struck by how sad it is and she's right. It's like Steve says in the beginning, "I wake up, they say we won. They didn't say what we'd lost."

The Avengers were finally able to work together as a team, they saved Manhattan, avenged Phil and for some of them, proved their worth but there were a lot of lives lost in New York, on the Helicarrier and the 80 people before that. Manhattan was almost nuked by a nuclear bomb. There's billions of dollars worth of damage. Other than the Hulk beating, we aren't even encouraged to be that gleeful about Loki's defeat. He's literally broken and since he reneged on his deal with Thanos, we learned earlier that retribution will be waiting for him so excruciating that "He will make you long for something as sweet as pain." Plus, Thanos is now encouraged to come to Earth himself...

Comments

[sarah531.livejournal.com]

Every single time I watch the scene with Loki and Fury, I take it the wrong way. Fury always assumes that we're the ants but I always think we're the boot.

That is a very good point. I never realised it could be interpreted that way before. :o

[malicehaughton.livejournal.com]

I spent half of last night looking up youtube videos on creationists for the lols. Funny isn't it, how they say we are not animals like the other animals because the bible says so, that they don't even bother not acting like animals when they are faced with something that says that they are taking things a liiiiitle too literally.

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

Have you watched the stuff with the Duggars? I highly recommend when they went hunting for diamonds and gems at this one place (they explain why Carbon dating is STUPID) and the time they went to the Creationist museum. Their shows always range between sweet, hilarious and frightening.

[malicehaughton.livejournal.com]

Ooh, no I haven't, but thanks for the suggestion. And of course Carbon Datign is STUPID. it's just God's practical joke to scientists, as much as I have ehard. Because, you know, a nice and kind God is also a prankster in his spare time, foolign those poor people (doesn't seem very nice does it?)

I swear some people will come up with any excuse to hold onto their beliefs, no matter how stupid it sounds to others.

[i-llbedammned.livejournal.com]

I could totally buy that humans are like the boots. Just destroying everything and hoping it works, not minding what they've just destroyed.

Actually I think our disposition for violence is what lead us to beat the Neaderthalls, as I remember.

I love the Avengers soundtrack. A Promise is very sad. They won the battle, but so many lives were lost. Loki looks beat and downtrodden and I think Thor even feels some degree of sympathy towards him even if it doesn't excuse his actions. It is only a matter of time before trouble builds up again.

[sigridhr.livejournal.com]

It does have sort of the feel of a Pyrrhic victory to it, doesn't it? What I love so much about the "ant has no quarrel with a boot" line (and Thor's answer: "you think yourself above them"/"you miss the truth of ruling, brother") is it highlights just how human gods are. One of my favourite quotes is Sir Arthur C Clarke's: "you can safely say you've created a god in your own image when he hates all the same people you do."

Early conceptions of god - the Roman pantheon, the Norse pantheon, even the god of the Old Testament - were tremendously human, despite being significantly more powerful than "ordinary" human beings. Humanity has a long (and violent) history of placing people in hierarchies -- these people are more important because they are of this race, or this gender, or this sexual preference - and dehumanizing those who aren't on the top rungs. Despite all of Asgard's "advanced" technology, they are just as fallible, backwards and judgemental as the rest of us. By making a statement that he felt defined himself as inherently better than humans, I've always thought he came off as being just another ant (or boot) with the rest of us.

Sorry... long ramble.

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

No, I like long rambles.