Jon Stewart and the Gun Debate
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ericadawn16I think this seems to show both sides of the issue. Most importantly, that screaming guy scares me. He scares my mom. When you want a reason why people want to ban guns other than the children dying every day, THAT GUY IS WHY! He's like the weirdos that made everyone hate the Tea Party before there were any other logical reasons.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-8-2013/scapegoat-hunter---gun-control
No, I don't want to take away your guns. As long as you are a responsible gun owner who took the training, learned how to care for them and keep them locked in a gun safe whenever they're not in use, I see no reason why you can't keep your handgun or rifle.
However, there is a term called "friendly fire". It's when the best trained people in the world with some of the best equipment in the world...still fuck up and shoot the wrong person. Now, if that's what we get from the best trained people in the world...I don't believe that civilians should have the same access to the same equipment. I don't even see the necessity of civilian Humvees aka Hummers.
I think if you need a semi-automatic assault rifle with a high capacity magazine, THEN YOU SUCK AS A HUNTER! If you honestly think it makes things more fun, take up archery. You can still maim and kill animals with a bow and arrow but you don't hear too many stories about people killing people with them.
December 14, 2012
United States Elementary School Attacked 26 Dead
China Elementary School Attacked 23 injured, None Dead
What was the difference? He couldn't get a gun. People will always make stupid decisions, do we really need to make the fatal outcomes easier in those circumstances?
Yes, we need better background checks for EVERY gun sale; no more loopholes. Yes, by better background checks, I mean they all need to go through the FBI as opposed to Florida admitting that it only did in-state background checks. I also think that people who buys guns for felons and those using them in a crime should be prosecuted at least as bad as if you bought a minor alcohol.
Yes, we should make mental healthcare easier and cheaper to receive. We shouldn't stigmatize or make fun of people for needing help...
BUT I don't agree with a "national database of crazy people". How are we going to define who is too mentally imbalanced? Are they on the list for life or taken off after a period of years of successful therapy and medication? More importantly, WHO HAS ACCESS TO THE LIST?
I know, those selling the guns have access to the list BUT wouldn't corporations buy their way into having access, too? Then, the list would simply be another tool to use for NOT hiring people!
When people are unemployed, they have no consistent healthcare coverage, no mental healthcare and are more likely to do destructive life decisions like suicide or these large scale massacres.
A lot of people don't understand this but then...they'd never failed Walmart's Psych test.
The main thing is that we can't just do nothing or else the next time something happens...people will be out for blood and your guns.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-8-2013/scapegoat-hunter---gun-control
No, I don't want to take away your guns. As long as you are a responsible gun owner who took the training, learned how to care for them and keep them locked in a gun safe whenever they're not in use, I see no reason why you can't keep your handgun or rifle.
However, there is a term called "friendly fire". It's when the best trained people in the world with some of the best equipment in the world...still fuck up and shoot the wrong person. Now, if that's what we get from the best trained people in the world...I don't believe that civilians should have the same access to the same equipment. I don't even see the necessity of civilian Humvees aka Hummers.
I think if you need a semi-automatic assault rifle with a high capacity magazine, THEN YOU SUCK AS A HUNTER! If you honestly think it makes things more fun, take up archery. You can still maim and kill animals with a bow and arrow but you don't hear too many stories about people killing people with them.
December 14, 2012
United States Elementary School Attacked 26 Dead
China Elementary School Attacked 23 injured, None Dead
What was the difference? He couldn't get a gun. People will always make stupid decisions, do we really need to make the fatal outcomes easier in those circumstances?
Yes, we need better background checks for EVERY gun sale; no more loopholes. Yes, by better background checks, I mean they all need to go through the FBI as opposed to Florida admitting that it only did in-state background checks. I also think that people who buys guns for felons and those using them in a crime should be prosecuted at least as bad as if you bought a minor alcohol.
Yes, we should make mental healthcare easier and cheaper to receive. We shouldn't stigmatize or make fun of people for needing help...
BUT I don't agree with a "national database of crazy people". How are we going to define who is too mentally imbalanced? Are they on the list for life or taken off after a period of years of successful therapy and medication? More importantly, WHO HAS ACCESS TO THE LIST?
I know, those selling the guns have access to the list BUT wouldn't corporations buy their way into having access, too? Then, the list would simply be another tool to use for NOT hiring people!
When people are unemployed, they have no consistent healthcare coverage, no mental healthcare and are more likely to do destructive life decisions like suicide or these large scale massacres.
A lot of people don't understand this but then...they'd never failed Walmart's Psych test.
The main thing is that we can't just do nothing or else the next time something happens...people will be out for blood and your guns.
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Date: 2013-01-16 06:22 am (UTC)But I think it was really telling when the CNN coverage of Joe Biden's announcement about his gun control recommendations was interrupted by an emergency announcement that there was yet another school shooting.
The gun control debate isn't taking all guns away from everybody. Americans love their guns too much to be like the UK where they had a school shooting and Parliment turned around and banned all handguns. There is some benefit to not having a nailed down constitution- fast action.
Second, it's not like all the constitutional rights/amendments live and die by their exact wording. There are still restriction on free speech. People still debate what constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. If you work in certain fields like the military, your 4th and 5th amendments could be virtually taken away. People can't just say "2ND AMENDMENT! Give us all the military-grade weaponry we can hold" and expect the argument to end there,
And there are always issues with constitution. One is that it can be outdated. It was written at a time where things we have to deal with now couldn't have been fathomed by the framers. Hell, how the country looks now politically would probably horrify the framers. There's also the issue that the constitution can be changed. It has been done before. Reconstruction amendments were a little extreme and probably wouldn't happen again, but the amendments starting and ending prohibition were obviously a case of 'whoops, guess that didn't work', Obviously it's not a perfect document.
And if the original intent of the framers was to allow for every citizen to join a militia if the government became tyrannical, well, that's kind of pointless to argue now considering bombs and drone warfare. People can clutch their automatics and try marching on the government. In the weird dystopian alternate universe where the US government decides to take over and aren't roundly questioned by every other semi competent world power out there, they can bomb and drone anyone who stands up to them. Nice gun you're holding.
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Date: 2013-01-16 07:22 pm (UTC)After the President's address, I downloaded his plan--just go to White House offical site--it's only with the title page 15 pages--and large print. I wrote my Senator and the President with my support for the new measures, although I have and voiced some concerns about a section in the proposl about background checks. Mental Health is as broad a spectrum and as varied as reproductive health, I am hoping before passing these reforms they call in a panal of Mental Health Professionals to clearly define which mental, behavioral, or emotional issues are consider high risk or "at risk". I would hate to think a two week bout of Post Pardum Depression would disqualify a woman from buying a handgun for protection or sport. I wouldn't normally think like this, but we just had males use possible pregnancy to justify rape.
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Date: 2013-01-16 06:08 pm (UTC)