So, Jack's dad is named Franklin...

[ericadawn16]

Here's my crazy theory:

At first, I thought it was weird that Jack's dad would be named...Franklin because it's so normal, but then, I remembered one of the most famous fictional Franklins of all time: Franklin Richards

Not only that, but Franklin Richards is famous for his powers of distorting time and space as well as being telepathic. Franklin's governess was even named Agatha Harkness.

So, what if...Jack's dad was Franklin Richards?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Richards

Of course, since Jack, in real life, was named after Agatha, it makes more sense that the writers just read too much Fantastic Four, but that would make a great crackfic.

I thought Gray might be named after Jean Grey, but apparently, they're spelled different.

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[jackdavfan692.livejournal.com]

Wha...? Where did you find out Jack's father's name was Franklin =|?

Just read that Wiki on Franklin Richards, and your theory doesn't sound crazy at all =)! It makes perfect sense, in fact :)! All the qualities/abilities/experiences are there- telepathy, ability to time travel (Ooh, that just gave me an idea for another theory =]! Psi-Lord=Time Lord- maybe Jack's family is a long-lost, somewhat less powerful (e.g. they don't have the ability to regenerate, at least not in the way the Doctor does) surviving offshoot of the Gallifreyian race =]!), a period of essentially being dead (though Jack has many of these, as we know ;)), the ability to be in many places and realities at once (as mentioned in "Fragments", and more or less shown in Doctor Who, where he appears as himself and as the Face of Boe), and founding member of a group of individuals who save the world (Jack taking the responsibility of forming a Torchwood team whose mission differs significantly from the one it had at its inception). If there isn't a direct connection (i.e. like in your theory), Jack's character was certainly inspired a lot by Franklin Richards :).

I thought Gray might be named after Jean Grey, but apparently, they're spelled different.

If Gray is based on anyone, I'd say the "Fantastic Four"/Marvel character he's meant to be similar to is Richards' child Hyperstorm. Gray's nowhere near as powerful as said character, but he's certainly a force of destruction just like that character (at least that's what he was portrayed as in "Exit Wounds").

Looking at a few of the links on that Wiki, the one about the Celestials specifically, I did find an interesting connection- The Daleks in the Whoniverse are based on them, I think , and their mortal enemies, the Time Lords, are based on the Celestials' mortal enemies, the Watchers ;).

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

We find out Jack's dad is named Franklin in "Adam."

Hehe, maybe the radiation that the Fantastic Four was exposed to was actually that thing from "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances" and they were remade into aliens? Franklin was remade into a Gallifreyian?

Ooh, Gray is actually Hyperstorm...

That's really interesting about the Celestials and Watchers.

[jackdavfan692.livejournal.com]

We do? Wow, I must have missed that! **Is now very impatient for BBC America to release season two on DVD B|**.

Yep, maybe so, on both counts ;).

Ooh, Gray is actually Hyperstorm...

Yep, that's my thinking. I'm actually kind of hoping we'll see Gray again in either the upcoming season of Torchwood or future ones. I'd like to know more about him :).

I thought so, too. Here are the links to the info about each race:
The Celestials- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_%28comics%29

The Watchers- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watcher_%28comics%29

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

Wow, did you read this????

"Franklin Richards, a powerful mutant and son of Mister Fantastic and the Invisible Woman of the hero team Fantastic Four, had married Rachel Summers, a powerful mutant in her own right and daughter of Cyclops and Phoenix of the X-Men. The product of their union was the phenomenally powerful mutant Jonathan Reed Richards, who ultimately grew up to use his great power to take over the post-apocalyptic world he lived in, calling himself Hyperstorm."

That would make "Gray" the grandchild of Jean Grey!!!!!

Wtf?? This was Exit Wounds:
"In his most ambitious move, Hyperstorm snatched Mister Fantastic and his archenemy, Doctor Doom, from the moment of their deaths after a battle with an unknown alien entity, imprisoning Doom and exiling Mister Fantastic to a time period without technology."

Although if Hyperstorm is Gray, would that mean that Jack is Dream Summers?

http://en.marveldatabase.com/Dream_Summers (http://en.marveldatabase.com/Dream_Summers)

[jackdavfan692.livejournal.com]

Hmmm..., maybe. But if that's who he's based on, the character's sex was changed (though Jack did say in the series premiere that he got pregnant once, and it's possible in the form of the Face of Boe, he also did), as was their fate- Dream Summers died at twenty-three, and though Jack has died a number of times, he always comes back to life. Keeping that in mind, it's hard to say for sure :/.

You know, this is really a lot of fun, all this speculating about how much Jack is connected (or not) to characters in the Marvel Universe :D!

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, we must do it again, hehe.

Remember when Cassandra referred to when she was a little boy?

(and now I'm thinking of the boy from Logo...)

[jackdavfan692.livejournal.com]

Yes, we should ;).

Remember when Cassandra referred to when she was a little boy?

Ooh, what episode of Doctor Who was that in? "New Earth", or the one where Doctor number nine and Rose watched the Earth disintegrate in the sun?

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

The first one she was in where the Face of Boe has a party to watch the Earth die.

[blackstronghold.livejournal.com]

If Jack is Dream Summers, then Gray also has to be alive in another dimension, slightly saner and not as abductee. And under another name. Like...Daf. Because if Jonathan = John = can be Jack, then David = Dave = can be Daf. Because the Welsh survives in that version of the 51st century. *nod* And then he can be catapulted into our dimension while our!Gray is still ice-stiff, and Jack doesn't have the heart to tell other!Gray he's a psychotic butcher and make to treat him as though Jack's 'sins' never happened (wasn't his fault, either way).

Don't wanna check that family tree though. Rose would be involved somehow.

[jackdavfan692.livejournal.com]

Hi there, blackstronghold, nice of you to join us :)!

And then he can be catapulted into our dimension while our!Gray is still ice-stiff, and Jack doesn't have the heart to tell other!Gray he's a psychotic butcher and make to treat him as though Jack's 'sins' never happened (wasn't his fault, either way).

That would make a great episode :D! Good idea :).

Don't wanna check that family tree though. Rose would be involved somehow.

LOL! Not a big fan of Rose, I gather, or at least not of the Rose + Doctor "ship" ;).