Grimm

[ericadawn16]

Dear Grimm,

Here are my thoughts for the next season...

1. Please develop your females more. We know basically nothing about the "love" of his life.

2. Please develop Hank more. We should know just as much about Hank as we do Monroe and we don't.

3. Please acknowledge Portland. It's an interesting city full of colorful people, including a cellist wanting distance from their secret agent boyfriend...crossover needs to happen in fic form...
I know that Portlandia is an exaggeration but I DO know that there is a big liberal community full of artist types and you portray it like Anytown, USA...if you're going to do that, why name a real city at all? Why not make one up like Sunnydale on Buffy?

4. Basically, I want you to put as much effort into the rest of the show as you do with the mythology/Grimm aspect.

Comments

[mollywobbles867.livejournal.com]

I stopped watching that show. I just had no investment whatsoever in the main character. Monroe is so much more interesting and easy to relate to than even Nick, who bores me with his black and white morality. Maybe it changes later, but I feel like he has no internal conflicts. The closest is grappling with the duty of being a Grimm falling into his lap, but it's so externalized.

I felt like all too often we were made to sympathize with bad guys. That can be interesting, but when it's done almost every episode it gets to be a formula and you begin to wonder why these things are hunted by Grimms in the first place.

His wife is a vet. That's all I know about her. I kept waiting for it to be revealed that she was some sort of fairy tale creature or for his work to affect his relationship emotionally or something (he is keeping a big secret from her, after all), but nope. It makes her look stupid.

Please tell me if she begins to get a clue later on. I stopped watching at Winter hiatus. I only watched that far because my roommate liked it a lot.

Anyway, it was too monster of the week for me. There was just no overall seasonal arc that I could sense, which is something Buffy spoiled me on.

[trektotorch.livejournal.com]

This is one of my favorite shows. I agree with you items one and two. How Nick can keep this from Juliet about his being a "Grimm" dosen't make sense. If they had a child--then that child would be a "Grimm". Don't you think she should know. Maybe we will get more female development in the next season now that Nick's mother is back. But, overall, I think this is one of the best shows.

[jackdavfan692.livejournal.com]

He didn't keep it from her, though, at least not through to the end of the season (e.g. he didn't even breathe a word about it in the finale) . One of the major plot points in, I think, the episode preceding the finale (or was it in the finale ep itself? I can't recall ATM) was exactly that. When he told her, she reacted like she though he was crazy. After that, in a last-ditch effort to convince her that he wasn't out of his mind, he enlisted Monroe to show her his fairy tale form, but she fainted (and eventually went into a coma) from Adalyn's cat's scratch before she could see Monroe in his blutebott form.

overall, I think this is one of the best shows.

Same here :]. *Nods*

[trektotorch.livejournal.com]

True--Nick did reveal it to Juliet in the season finale. She thought he need mental health help. But, I have a feeling that when she comes out of her coma she will have forgotten what he told her. I think if Nick had gradually prepared her over a course of time, instead of waiting until she thought he was going wacko, maybe she would have accepted it. I love the character of Monroe--he makes the show.

[jackdavfan692.livejournal.com]

Possibly. *Nods* That would definitely have been better, rather than dropping the whole bomb, as it were (e.g. telling her that creatures of fairy tale actually do exist, showing her his aunt's trailer, practically dragging her to Monroe's house so he could transform in front of her, etc.), on her in one fell swoop. I'm not sure how he'd have gone about letting her into his world, for lack of a better word, gradually, though :[. Maybe telling her that he's the last surviving member of the Grimm family first, then going from there? I'd think she'd still be hard-pressed to believe him about the existence of things like trolls, wolfmen, mousemen, dragonmen, etc., though.

I love the character of Monroe--he makes the show.

I do too 8). *Nods* He's my favorite character, actually :).

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

Okay, I'm going to copy my comment from another reply because it's still accurate...

Okay. this is one of the MOST infuriating, STUPID things to ever happen on tv since Miracle Day!!!!

Let me explain the stupidity.

She...being a rational scientist...investigates the "bigfoot" hair. She sees the genetic anomalies and comes to the conclusion that there may be unknown, undiscovered species.

YAY!

Then, in the VERY NEXT EPISODE, he explains how she is basically right and she freaks out and thinks he's INSANE!

How the fuck is that consistent writing??

It boggles my mind. It truly does and to make it worse, he uses that bad experience to NOT tell Hank so the writers basically chickened out from having Juliet and Hank find out and came up with two BS ways how to do it.

I was honestly hoping that her experience with the bigfoot analysis WAS a gradual way. I mean come on, she's noticed his acting weird all year and there's the crazy camper and the other stuff...

Even Buffy's mom took this better.

Yes, I think you're right. I think she will not remember anything and this was the writers having her find out and then taking it away again as though we should give them a brownie for that time Juliet found out about Nick for five hours...

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

Okay. this is one of the MOST infuriating, STUPID things to ever happen on tv since Miracle Day!!!!

Let me explain the stupidity.

She...being a rational scientist...investigates the "bigfoot" hair. She sees the genetic anomalies and comes to the conclusion that there may be unknown, undiscovered species.

YAY!

Then, in the VERY NEXT EPISODE, he explains how she is basically right and she freaks out and thinks he's INSANE!

How the fuck is that consistent writing??

It boggles my mind. It truly does and to make it worse, he uses that bad experience to NOT tell Hank so the writers basically chickened out from having Juliet and Hank find out and came up with two BS ways how to do it.

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

They did get a mysterious conspiracy which I would compare more with The X-Files than Buffy's big bad of the season. Apparently, Nick's own police chief works for the bad monsters and they want Nick working for them as other Grimms have done.

[i-llbedammned.livejournal.com]

I would love for Juliet to be more than just Nick's love interest one day.

Hank, yeah, he gets wrapped up in things, but he is not really involved yet. I'm waiting for Hank to actually step full into paranormal investigation.

[jackdavfan692.livejournal.com]

I definitely agree with your first two points. *Nods* The first one had never occurred to me until now, but except for maybe the spiderwoman played by Amy Acker (who'd have thunk we'd be seeing "Fred"/"Illyria" again on TV =)?) and, to a lesser extent, Adalyn, there's been precious little development of the female characters :/. Juliet, at least, should have been written in a more multi-dimensional manner :[!

Please develop Hank more. We should know just as much about Hank as we do Monroe

My thinking exactly. *Nods* We know next to nothing about him, save that he's Nick's partner in the police department. Hopefully, now that he's seen two fairy tale beings in their true form, that'll jumpstart some further development of the character.

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

(who'd have thunk we'd be seeing "Fred"/"Illyria" again on TV =)?)

Uh...

Since Angel ended in 2004, Amy Acker has appeared on single episodes of:
Supernatural
Law & Order: Criminal Intent
Ghost Whisperer
Private Practice
Human Target
The Good Wife
CSI
Once Upon a Time
Person of Interest

She has appeared in the tv movies:
A Near Death Experience
Fire & Ice
Dear Santa

She appeared in...
14 episodes of Dollhouse
13 episodes of Alias
8 episodes of Happy Town
at least 4 episodes of Justice League
3 episodes of Drive
2 episodes of No Ordinary Family
2 episodes of October Road

and my personal favorite guest spot ever...an episode of

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<b>(who'd have thunk we'd be seeing "Fred"/"Illyria" again on TV =)?) </b>

Uh...

Since Angel ended in 2004, Amy Acker has appeared on single episodes of:
Supernatural
Law & Order: Criminal Intent
Ghost Whisperer
Private Practice
Human Target
The Good Wife
CSI
Once Upon a Time
Person of Interest

She has appeared in the tv movies:
A Near Death Experience
Fire & Ice
Dear Santa

She appeared in...
14 episodes of Dollhouse
13 episodes of Alias
8 episodes of Happy Town
at least 4 episodes of Justice League
3 episodes of Drive
2 episodes of No Ordinary Family
2 episodes of October Road

and my personal favorite guest spot ever...an episode of <b.How I met your Mother</b> because it meant her, Alexis and Alyson were all in a episode together again.

Oh gosh, I hope and the it's like, well, they do seem more comfortable writing males and having them know but then...they could just milk this thing some more and I HATE that...
It's bad enough when they do it on Merlin and at least on Merlin, the writing and stories and the acting all make me forgive them.