Day 19 - Favorite Elizabeth scene
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Day 19 - Favorite Elizabeth scene
It's when Elizabeth saves James in Tortuga. It's kind of debatable what Elizabeth's true feelings are before that point. She calls him James, says how he's a fine man and she would go through with the marriage but you can't tell how much is honesty and how much is manipulation to make sure Will is saved. However, in Tortuga, she recognizes James despite the scruffiness AND recognizes the suicidal mood he's in and she saves him from getting himself killed that night. Then, she could have walked away but she finds where they threw him out and is honestly saddened by the whole situation, plus, the way she touches him here.
I think she really did love James but not in the same way that she loved Will.

It's when Elizabeth saves James in Tortuga. It's kind of debatable what Elizabeth's true feelings are before that point. She calls him James, says how he's a fine man and she would go through with the marriage but you can't tell how much is honesty and how much is manipulation to make sure Will is saved. However, in Tortuga, she recognizes James despite the scruffiness AND recognizes the suicidal mood he's in and she saves him from getting himself killed that night. Then, she could have walked away but she finds where they threw him out and is honestly saddened by the whole situation, plus, the way she touches him here.
I think she really did love James but not in the same way that she loved Will.

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Date: 2011-04-27 11:24 pm (UTC)Moreover, the main theme of AWE score is called One Day. And that CotFD can step on the land for one day only was repeated to oblivion in DMC and AWE. So One Day it is. She didn`t visit and he didn`t get free after 10 years. I`m sorry but movies are clear on that. Not to mention that his heart is removed from his body so he cannot be normal or human or whatever after 10 years. Makes no sense. It could have worked had he been intact but with heart surgery, it`s a huge plot hole.
Finally, Calypso is from Greek Mythology and the whole Land of the Dead plus CotFD as a ferrier of souls borrows heavily from Greeks. Following that source, James couldn`t possibly end up where other souls such as Governor, pirates,etc go because he is a warrior. Warriors especially really brave ones which he is (he not only gave his life for others but rejected the offer of corrupt immortality) go to Elysseum. And Elizabeth being a weekend warrior but not a real one like soldiers couldn`t go there because it`s the place for the chosen ones. Like Norse Valhalla. Only the bravest warriors are admitted and Norrington`s two final acts of bravery coupled with his lifetime of it fit the bill perfectly.
I`m just saying that the whole modern girl trapped in 18th century was distroyed once Will asked her to wait for him and she obeyed. That`s in the movie. That`s canon. She didn`t let cultural norms dictate what she does but that was possible when she had Norrington to set her free to do what she wants. Will took away her freedom. I`m sorry but she clealry abandoned pirate life. I dunno of what adventure T&T spoke but for 99% of people who saw the movie that`s what it is because only 1% read T&T statement on their site. And what`s canon for majority should be canon for everyone. If they wanted a different message, they should`ve written a different script.