Steven Moffat on Frobisher

[ericadawn16]

As you may recall, Capaldi guested as Caecilius in Fires of Pompeii and also played the unpleasant politico John Frobisher in the superb Torchwood: Children of Earth. Unlike Freema Agyeman and Karen Gillan, these are two significant roles and The Moff has revealed that he is “not going to ignore the fact.”
I remember Russell [T Davies] told me that he had a big old plan as to why there were two Peter Capaldi’s in the Who universe: one in Pompeii and one in Torchwood. When I cast Peter and Russell got in touch to say how pleased he was, I said, ‘Okay, what was your theory and does it still work?” and he said, ‘Yes it does. Here it is…’


We’ll play that one out over time. It’s actually quite neat.

There is also some interesting news about the nature of regeneration, and why the Doctor ends up with a particular face.
The face is not set from birth. It’s not like he was always going to be one day Peter Capaldi. We know that’s the case because in The War Games he has a choice of faces. So we know it’s not set, so where does he get those faces from? They can’t just be randomly generated because they’ve got lines. They’ve aged. When he turns into Peter he’ll actually have lines on his face.
So where did that face come from?

http://www.kasterborous.com/2013/09/moffat-capaldi-appearances-theory-will-included-video/

Damn.

Frobisher and Children of Earth remain canon.

It's hard being a Torchwood fan. There were things that were wonderful. There were things that were horrible but the worst part is the possibility of greatness that it held. As upset at the time as I was, I now wonder if getting out when he did was the best thing to happen to Burn Gorman. Since then, he's had sixteen different roles on film, American television and British television. He's worked with Christopher Nolan and is going to be in his second Guillermo del Toro film...the one with kinky, naked Hiddles.

Slightly off-topic...

When did people become so bad with not labeling stories that have character bashing? I first became acquainted with it through Torchwood but now I'm finding it in Avengers stories with Steve Rogers of all people!!

Comments

[betawho.livejournal.com]

Hah! I saw Frobisher in the title and got all excited that Peter Capaldi had something to do with the talking penguin.

[invsagoth.livejournal.com]

I swear I had coherent thoughts until I read 'kinky naked Hiddles' and then my brain just... where did it go? What was I doing?
(I'm so excited for this movie btw, xD)

Oh right, the Doctor!
I'm glad that they have a plan for explaining why they're reusing the actor! I'm still not sold on the new doctor, but that's just because I love Eleven and I don't want him to be replaced yet. (neeeeeevaaaaaaar)

[iamrman82.livejournal.com]

Kinky naked Hiddles? What?

[ericadawn16.livejournal.com]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2554274/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_1

[jackdavfan692.livejournal.com]

I'm actually rather intrigued as to what Moffat is planning to do with that :]. Linking Caecilius and Frobisher is one thing, and works really well, but somehow connecting both of them to the Doctor having a face that resembles theirs is something else entirely. I mean seriously, why would he choose that one (assuming that is what happens), of all the possible options he might have, particularly since there's a chance he'd run into Jack again (we still don't know what happened to him during those two missing years of his memory, and RTD said that was Moffat's story to tell, so... ;))?

My only slight worry is the connection between Caecilius, Frobisher, and the Doctor will be touched on relatively early in Capaldi's tenure as Twelve (i.e. at some point in the upcoming season), which could potentially make it more challenging if he's trying to separate his role as the Doctor from those two previous ones. I don't doubt he could do it, as he's a great actor and looks different anyway, both age-wise and appearance-wise (he's older, and, for example, has longer hair now than he did as both Caecilius and Frobisher), but still.


Still haven't quite completely made peace with COE, huh :]? Nothing wrong with that :). I think I pretty much have (including that tragic, heartbreaking event in "Day 4"). *Nods* What I absolutely do refuse to acknowledge as part of TW/DW canon, though, is "Miracle Day". As far as I'm concerned, Jack's still wandering the universe & trying to come to terms with what happened to Ianto, and what he was forced to do to stop the 456 (e.g. sacrifice his grandson).

It really did have a lot of potential :[. *Nods melancholically* It's a shame RTD & company felt it was necessary to morph it into something almost entirely different in order to attract a larger viewing audience. But oh well, what can you do :[? *Shrugs resignedly*

[coneyislandbaby]

I think I'm intrigued because most (all?) of the past regenerations/multi-castings have been handwaved, so I'm interested in how they do it when it isn't handwaved.

I know what you mean about Torchwood. I also think it's hard that it is honestly one of the most divisive fandoms I've ever been a part of.

I do think you might be right about Burn, and I just realised he's in The Dark Knight Rises - I just got the two-disc DVD used last week. I mean I knew he was but I was more excited about getting to see Anne Hathaway's Selina.

... Steve Rogers? Bashed? Wow. I mean I can understand not liking/relating to him, but he's... Steve. How could anyone bash him? Or anyone else, really, but Steve? *boggled*

[solidfoamsoul.livejournal.com]

Until the end of your post I kept thinking